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Monday, April 20th 2009, 8:35pm

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I totally agree! It is a international problem as ships are being attacked indiscriminately. So, a international force should take care of it.

that actually was what i meant, although i did not write exactly that, sry


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Monday, April 20th 2009, 8:38pm

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but i totally agree, you just write your "Diplomarbeit" and have a far better in-depth knowledge of "everything", than e.g. Paul Krugman, who is a Princeton professor and winner of the nobe-price, and was at least assistant at three of the world's most known universities.


On Paul Krugman, you can quote Friedrich von Hayek: who is no more than an economist, cannot even be a good economist And, of course, Krugman even isn't an economist, cause he isn't able to take view of the long run of economic situation. In this part, he is following his great hedonistic master Keynes, who noted that "in the long run, we are dead".

A nobel price or anything of state awards is far away from being a measury of quality for the person who receive it. Just look at german "Bundesverdienstkreuz" or, to stay in Sweden, at the Nobel Peace Price and Persons who receive it. Such decisions are made in the rule of policy, and the voting for Paul Krugman is nothing more than a policy voting for more state authority, keynesianism, distribution of wealth and income etc - Krugman will accept this part, because he is one of those economic, who change a moral and mathematic science to a prostitution science.

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the rest is just your usual racist/social darwinism "i know everything" bs, at least you proved that spelling is not one of your core competencies


I don't say that I know "everything", and what you call of "racist" and "social darwinism" doesn't bother me. At least, I am not a social engineer, cause I have a realistic idea of man, and I see that 40 years of forced integration between black and white people have lead to a greater distress than nearly 200 years of forced segregation before. Call me how you want, I knew the german negrolover already, who, like Thomas Klau of European Council on Foreign Relations, made the remark that white americans are still racists cause McCain hat a little advantage in this voter group. The fact of 90%-Voting for a Obama, given up by black and hispanic voters, doesn't seem be a "racist vote" for him.



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on the other hand i DO believe, that there is a lot of illegal fishing/waste dumping/whatever, because a nicely filled envelope normally opens a lot of doors...


What do you think why the "door is open"? At least, look at the rainforest, these territories aren't privately owned, so you couldn't exclude others from the utilization. In case, this form of a "joint use" leads to a faster exploitation of the resources.

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concerning the ships, i think this is the least worry, of european companies, normally they are well covered by insurance, and nothing is better than to get rid of an old vessel AND be paid for it


You forget the rise in insurance policy as cause of piracy. Also, the state consists essentially a national defense establishment, which deter and combat those who initiate the use of physical force. A private Insurance isn't abel to insure the risks of conflicts which are created by policy.

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Monday, April 20th 2009, 10:07pm

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On Paul Krugman, you can quote Friedrich von Hayek: who is no more than an economist, cannot even be a good economist And, of course, Krugman even isn't an economist, cause he isn't able to take view of the long run of economic situation. In this part, he is following his great hedonistic master Keynes, who noted that "in the long run, we are dead".

does not really suprise me that you love the "austrian school" and hate keynes, but (for me) hayeks theories are nothing more than, well as a sociologist i would say a mix of economic liberalism, communism-hating and "structural functionism"(strukturfunktionalismus) (i hope this term exists in english?), and what does the "middle-class"(since french revolution) and structural functionalism have in common? they want to defend their position(middle-class) and they want the current system to live on

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A nobel price or anything of state awards is far away from being a measury of quality for the person who receive it. Just look at german "Bundesverdienstkreuz" or, to stay in Sweden, at the Nobel Peace Price and Persons who receive it. Such decisions are made in the rule of policy, and the voting for Paul Krugman is nothing more than a policy voting for more state authority, keynesianism, distribution of wealth and income etc - Krugman will accept this part, because he is one of those economic, who change a moral and mathematic science to a prostitution science

i wont comment on krugman here, but especially in the recent past you are unfortuanetly right about prices
but if you want it to be a mathematical science, could you please not name it "social science", then call it a physical science(naturwissenschaft) not a social science(sozialwissenschaft)

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I don't say that I know "everything", and what you call of "racist" and "social darwinism" doesn't bother me. At least, I am not a social engineer, cause I have a realistic idea of man, and I see that 40 years of forced integration between black and white people have lead to a greater distress than nearly 200 years of forced segregation before. Call me how you want, I knew the german negrolover already, who, like Thomas Klau of European Council on Foreign Relations, made the remark that white americans are still racists cause McCain hat a little advantage in this voter group. The fact of 90%-Voting for a Obama, given up by black and hispanic voters, doesn't seem be a "racist vote" for him.

yeah your right, the W.A.S.P.s are the poor majority in the US and they need help *lol*
what do you mean by "german negrolover"??(and noooo, thats not racist speech, no its fine... :rolleyes:)
but as i said to you on cdu/csu things, do not moan here, write HIM an email, that you dont like him

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What do you think why the "door is open"? At least, look at the rainforest, these territories aren't privately owned, so you couldn't exclude others from the utilization. In case, this form of a "joint use" leads to a faster exploitation of the resources.

the door is opened because of poverty? and poverty is not as you may think, determined through the "economic failure of the black race", as you are kind of stating above(although "races" do not exist)

the rainforest is not killed for direct food production or any benefits the local people would have, it is all for the (western) wood market, and the soy is for feeding cows/pigs/other cattle

so actually a "joint use" is ridiculous

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You forget the rise in insurance policy as cause of piracy. Also, the state consists essentially a national defense establishment, which deter and combat those who initiate the use of physical force. A private Insurance isn't abel to insure the risks of conflicts which are created by policy.

well, you can even insure your a*ss, and normally you can insure EVERYthing aside "act of God"(found this tranlslation on dict.cc =höhere gewalt)

and now im gonna go and do my essay on identity&habitus

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Tuesday, April 21st 2009, 12:09pm

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does not really suprise me that you love the "austrian school" and hate keynes, but (for me) hayeks theories are nothing more than, well as a sociologist i would say a mix of economic liberalism, communism-hating and "structural functionism"(strukturfunktionalismus) (i hope this term exists in english?), and what does the "middle-class"(since french revolution) and structural functionalism have in common? they want to defend their position(middle-class) and they want the current system to live on


Mostly, exspecially of the german middle-class, isn't really a political subject. In fact, they want to earn money, educate their children and
to lead a "normal" life, if we would call it. What you say about the austrian school, is just right in case of the economic liberalism, and there is no other school which was able to disprove the arguments of socialists and marxists about the "explotation of the working class".

Hayek fought against the constructivism (Konstruktivismus, i hope there is a better word in english), cause it isn't a realistic idea of man if you say that all of our institutions, rules and values are the result of human designing. In case, they are the result of human acts, and not of human design. Even Hayek was more a liberal than a conservative, and he and other members of the Austrian School primarily raise against the expansion of state authority, exspecially the expansion of welfare state and the desctruction of the cosmos (in german: "spontane Ordnungen"), in which people make their own decisions. In consequence, an Austrian isn't enthusiastic in front of democracy, or as Hans-Hermann Hoppe already wrote:

The American model – democracy – must be regarded as a historical error, economically as well as morally. Democracy promotes shortsightedness, capital waste, irresponsibility, and moral relativism. It leads to permanent compulsory income and wealth redistribution and legal uncertainty. It is counterproductive. It promotes demagoguery and egalitarianism.


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i wont comment on krugman here, but especially in the recent past you are unfortuanetly right about prices
but if you want it to be a mathematical science, could you please not name it "social science", then call it a physical science(naturwissenschaft) not a social science(sozialwissenschaft)


Call it "social science" as you like, it wouldn't be wrong, cause it is scrutinizing the human action in the economic case. But, so far, I have a problem with the word "social" in case of the current view of "social justice", or in german: "soziale Gerechtigkeit".


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yeah your right, the W.A.S.P.s are the poor majority in the US and they need help *lol*
what do you mean by "german negrolover"??(and noooo, thats not racist speech, no its fine... :rolleyes:)


If colored and hispanic americans are poorer than white americans, this isn't a case of discrimination, it shows that white americans in average tend to lead a more productive life than other races and ethnics who are living in this state. You think it is discimination cause you are believing in the proclamation of human rights in which is said that all people are "good and equal". But, people aren't equal and couldn't be equal.

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the door is opened because of poverty? and poverty is not as you may think, determined through the "economic failure of the black race", as you are kind of stating above(although "races" do not exist)


Poverty is the consequence for the econmic failure of these races, not their cause. And I don't want to support Mr. Gobineau, but there are differences in human races, even like there are differences between man and wife and so on.

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the rainforest is not killed for direct food production or any benefits the local people would have, it is all for the (western) wood market, and the soy is for feeding cows/pigs/other cattle


Bloody, badly Western market. Who sells the wood and the soy? Is the rainforest in private Ownership of a western capitalist or is he "owned" by countrys, in which state leaders may increasing social spending with these profits? They don't have a long-term and factually interest on the rainforest, this is the problem.
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